Brexit: erresaka (teoriko eta praktikoa)

Question Spacetime @pbcqt

@billy_blog explain how voting against EU is vote against neoliberalism? UK is biggest neoliberal force in EU and still a big one out of it.

1 Ikus http://mikenormaneconomics.blogspot.com.es/2016/06/left-divided-on-brexit.html.

2 Ingelesez: “Matt, this is just the first battle of what will be a very long war. Voting to exit the EU does not mean we will in fact leave the EU, as strange as that may seem! Today, some of those leading the exit camp started to unveil what they mean by exit. And it is almost no different to full EU membership. There was all this banging on about free movement of people and how the UK was now at breaking point. Now the exiters claim there position was never to do anything about freedom of movement. You see, they only wanted to have the right to enforce “some measure” of freedom of movement, not that they would enforce this “small measure”.”

3 Ingelesez: “So all the xenophobia and anti-immigration paranoia whipped up by the right was a ruse. Anybody who had any sense knew that it was a ruse because they’re all hardcore neoliberal austerians who believe in the rights of business not labour. The left exiters had a different argument altogether, but nobody listened to a word they said.”

4 Ingelesez: “So the first battle was won: the one that unshackles us from the neoliberal EU constitution and institutions. There are many other battles now which must be fought. The newly emboldened right are gearing up for a bonfire of workers’ rights, more austerity and more privatization.”

5 Ingelesez: “Voting leave by its very nature would invariably strengthen the neoliberal right. But that step had to be taken. There was no way around that. Whether the left can get its act together is another matter. The parliamentary Labour Party, which is extremely neoliberal and narcissistic that it makes Trump seem positively humble, is so devoted to the EU that they are now taking steps to remove the current leader and replace him with a Blairite zombie. The argument, would you believe, is that Labour isn’t pro-business, pro-neoliberal and pro-EU enough, and that under the amazing Blair the Labour Party won three general election but more importantly made this country a beacon of progress!
The Blairite Labouristas have total contempt for their membership, their voters and their country. Naturally, they would rather lose to the Tories, who are no different to them, than listen to their working class base – loud echoes of the US Democrats. The leadership of the Labour Party should firstly welcome a coup. That could initiate deselection of these MPs by the party executive or by the constituencies. Without a total purge of these neoliberal, neoconservative Blairite warmongers, the Labour Party will never reclaim the millions of voters and the vast swathes of the country who have gone over in droves to UKIP. Without a very radical leftwing party promising to bring prosperity to the wasteland that has become much of the UK, this country is heading for a lot of pain – breakup, political violence and a good deal of social violence. As I said in another thread, these neoliberal maniacs have initiated the breakup of a very old country and unleashed economic, social, political and constitutional mayhem. Many congratulations. There are words for this. Traitors is one. Treason is another.”

6 Ingelesez: “I voted out and then got cold feet, not that my vote made any difference, my area voted in. But John’s reply is reassuring, and Bill Mitchell is of course very knowledgeable.
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The Labour vote comes from two sources, the working class and the middleclass. The middleclass left are well educated and have well paid jobs on the whole.
Bill Mitchell and most of the MMT-ers tend to be from the Middle Class. When I watch them on YouTube I like their relaxed moderate style, so different to the spokesmen on the right, all bellicose and loudmouthed. Look at Peter Schiff?”

7 Ingelesez: “Kaivey, we didn’t have a choice. We did the right thing. And what’s more, for the bloody fight ahead (…).”

8 Ingelesez. “Kaivey, just remember we can only do what needs to be done if we are organised, with militant unions behind and in front of us, and with a political party agitating for the working class. If we can’t do this, then quite frankly we are lambs to the slaughter. Make no mistake, the neoliberal vultures are circling, and their eyes are firmly fixed on the NHS, pensions, transport, education, etc.”

9 Ingelesez: “They aim to make us into Greece or Latvia. In circumstances like this, the working class is just as likely to militate for the very neoliberal UKIP and Thatcherite Tory policies, which will inflict even more pain on the working class, as to make common cause with the unions and the left. So we need to get these desperate, suffering, confused and angry people to join our side.
How do you think the vast wastelands of the UK are going to react when they find out that voting to leave the EU will in fact make no difference to their lives? In actual fact their lives will be made worse because the newly empowered uber-neoliberal Tories will be further emboldened to push through their most radical pro-business, anti-worker policies while the Labour Party descends into recrimination, civil war and impotence? The Margaret Hodges, Chukka Umunnas and Liz Kendalls (taking their marching orders from the detestable Blair) are gearing up for a drawn out, acrimonious and exhausting war in order to replace the current Labour leadership with neoliberal Blairites. The Blairites are under the psychotic impression that it makes all the difference in the world if they push through the identical neoliberal policies that their identikit Tory brethren wish to push through. This is zombie tribalism.”

10 Ingelesez: “It’s not going to be a particularly pleasant few years. So we have a long hard road in front of us. That’s the truth. No point in hiding it or shying away from it. All in all, we need to kick every neoliberal face in, every single Blairite and Thatcherite one of them, and that’s only because we have a forgiving and gentle nature. Justice would involve far worse. After all, they happily watch Greeks die and calmly watch the rise of neo-Nazis parties if it means an extra penny profit.”

11 Ikus Litekeena ote eurogunean austeritatearekin bukatzea?: https://www.unibertsitatea.net/otarrea/gizarte-zientziak/ekonomia/litekeena-ote-eurogunean-austeritatearekin.